UNDERSTANDING, with Jontie

Why We’re Not Ready for AI (But Can Be)

Episode Summary

AI is transforming the world faster than any technology in history — and most of us feel unprepared. We fear losing jobs, losing purpose, and losing control. But the truth is, AI isn’t the biggest threat to our future. Our mindset is.

Episode Transcription

hey guys

welcome to this latest episode of

UNDERSTANDING with Jontie

today I want to talk about AI

and how things are changing in the world

and kind of address some of that anxiety out there

because recently I

I asked my AI assistant if it was gonna take my job

and it said it would but honestly

you don't make enough money so hahaha

that hurt that hurt on a lot of levels

especially since it wrote that joke for me

so seriously though today i do wanna talk about AI

I wanna talk about kind of all this

all this noise out there about AI replacing us

and I'm kind of operating on the assumption that

that's the plan that's what's gonna happen

and despite that

I'm optimistic and I want you to be optimistic too

I want you to understandthe good and bad of of what's coming right

and how we have a lot of power in our hands um

and we don't even realize it

and so instead of just knee jerk

reacting to the situation

being fearful being angry

I think if we take this in a measured way

we have time so if we just take these steps

and we have these conversations

and we figure out you know

what is what are the different paths forward

I think we can really maximize

the benefit to ourselves to our children

to our society so let's get started

I'm actually watching a a YouTube video right now

an interview with an expert on AI security

and he is painting a very doom and gloom scenario

I do have to say

but there is room for hope

okay

and the hope I felt

came from another interview I watched recently

with Anthony Hopkins

so let me briefly share kinda what

what Anthony Hopkins shared in this interview

he I think he was asked something about like

you know

were you always destined to be this great actor

and his response was surprising

he was like he was like

by no means he's like

I thought I would be a failure my whole life

because that's what his parents thought of him

they said you know look

you don't do good in school

you're not good socially

so we basically don't have any hope in you

and Anthony Hopkins took this as a challenge

he he went out into the world

I think this is like

around the close to time when he was graduating

or after he graduated from high school

and he just ran into this kind of performance [play]

I think it was being done at a local Church

and he asked the pastor if

you know he could join in and

and participate and they gave him a part

and he performed well even

he surprised himself

but he says like

the reason he was looking for that was because he

he felt this need to prove himself

you know I was like

look I'm

everybody thinks I'm a failure

I'm gonna show them and so he went out into the world

looking for that opportunity

let me explain why that gives me hope

because we're afraid of AI

in the same way that

Anthony Hopkins's parents were afraid for him

they looked at the world they looked at opportunities

and what made somebody successful

and they're like this kid doesn't have it

and we're looking at the world

and we're like we can't compete with AI

we can't compete with robotics

we can't how are we gonna survive in this world

but we have to understand that these systems only

produce a very narrow range of success right

schools basically train us to be factory workers

to work in a cubicle to fit in

to almost do the work of a robot

of a machine of a computer

so is it any wonder we're looking at the future

we're looking at AI we're looking at robotics

and we're like I can't compete with that

we can't compete with that

and it's true we can't

but in the same way that Anthony Hopkins's parents

didn't see the opportunities out there

all of the opportunities

we are also missing all of the opportunities in

in this world of AI and robotics

which means the problem isn't AI and robotics

the problem is our mindset

the problem is how we're looking at the situation

because Hopkins didn't thrive

by fitting into a certain mold

he he thrived by

by looking outside of the system

not by fitting in not by

you know looking backwards

he looked ahead

he looked at what existed outside of school

outside of you know

social connections what

where did he have a passion

that wouldn't be nurtured within school

wouldn't be nurtured within what typically

people thought of as successful

and that's the shift that we need also

this shift

looking for the opportunities that are coming

looking for the opportunities that exist outside that

that narrow mold that school is preparing us for

because because while AI may replace repetition

AI will replace obedience

AI will replace conformity

it will never replace those things that make us human

and I know it's hard because

we we have human beings

we have this concept called sunk costs

so you know

when we invest so much of our time

our effort our energy into anything

we hate to give it up

we hate to say it was all for nothing

but this is something entrepreneurship taught me

you can't base your future actions on past ones

so if i spent three years working on this one project

but then now I know it's doomed to failure

I can't tell myself well

well no

I just need to work harder and make it work

that's not a logical reaction

but it's a very human reaction

so when we spend twelve years

you know going through K through 12th grade

when we go to college and we go to grad school

and we invest all this time

all this money all this effort

we've achieved all these kind of grades and honors

achievements it's hard to say no

i'm gonna break with that

and i'm gonna find new opportunities

i'm gonna break with this mold well

the the further we've gone in our education

the more we've been pushed into this mold

we've been pushed into this idea of

what success looks like what achievement looks like

what what makes us prepared for the future

and like I said earlier

schools were created to prepare us

to fit into that mold to

to work on that assembly line

to work in that cubicle to conform

to do repetitive work to obey without question

and unfortunately the opportunities of the future

they come from somewhere else

they come from us actually looking for opportunities

exploring our creativity exploring our

our talents

exploring what makes us human

because all of those things we've been taught that

like I said that repetition

that conformity that obedience

that's all stuff AI can do

they can they can do get

do the minutiae

do that repetitive work

do that mind numbingly boring stuff

and you know

for the longest time I think most of us have felt that

we feel trapped in these jobs

you know doing this repetitive work

stealing or destroying our humanity

and that's why I say the future of work is

there's a lot of hope

there's a lot of opportunity to reclaim that humanity

to to follow our passion

and it's a scary thing like I said

sunk costs you know

we've invested all this time and effort

in in truth

we haven't lost everything right

we can take things from it

we've learned lessons we've

we've we've learned how to work hard

we've learned information about math and science

and history

now we need to pursue those that

those things that that arouse in us curiosity

and

this is something that comes very natural to children

NASA actually

did a study years ago

trying to identify creative geniuses

within their organization

and after the study

they decided to continue looking at genius

in our schools

they they found that 98%

of four and five year olds

actually qualified as creative geniuses

they fell into that category

but what happened is

as children went through our educational system

the number

the percentage of creative geniuses fell precipitously

from year to year

until by the time people reach adulthood

there's only two percent in the population

so

this really shows us that the education system we have

is really not preparing us

for the opportunities of the future

because being a creative genius

being able to think outside the box

being able to be human

that that is a lot more difficult for a machine to do

than it is for us to do

and that is where we have a competitive advantage

and again this is something I learned in business

you wanna go to where you have a competitive advantage

you wanna go where you don't have to compete with

everyone else and in this case

we don't want to compete with AI and

and robotics

you want to be able to do something only you can do

that they can't compete with you at

even in my own life actually

so maybe a few months ago

my son was in school and he loves doodling

he loves drawing he loves art

he loves creativity and we try to encourage him

but he's also a studious kid

so I don't feel a need to kind of keep that in check

like he does his work

once he's done with his work

i'm fine with him being creative and and

and pursuing those passions

and that's what he did in school

he finished his school work and he started doodling

and the kid next to him is like hey

you're not supposed to do that

you're not on task

you're not doing what you're supposed to be doing well

you're getting in trouble

and my son got upset at him

but that kid understood something

picked up an unspoken lesson that my son didn't

didn't pick up okay

and that lesson is you need to obey

you need to conform

you need to do what you're supposed to be doing

this is not a space to pursue your passions and your it

it it's

it's incredible what we pick up

it's incredible but that

that lesson that other kid picked up he it's

it's destroying his humanity

it's destroying his natural curiosity

it's it's destroying his his

his natural creative genius

that will serve him in this new world

this new economy this new AI-dominated world

and you know

I feel bad

you know I had to have a conversation with my son too

because he was also at risk of losing this

this passion losing

because he explained to me

I finished my work and then I did doodling

and I'm like I'm completely fine with that

and we even had a conference with the teacher and

you know he knows this is going on

and he's also fine with it

cause we explained our philosophy and he's

he is on the same page

so it actually worked out really well

but this is what we need to be aware of

you know

school is both very good but also very dangerous

and so as parents we need to be aware of this

yes we want our children to pick up the basic skills

we want them to know how to read and write and do math

and learn history and um

all these different things

but we can't allow their their natural genius

their natural creativity to be squashed in the process

all in the name of conformity

all in the name of of

of obedience that is dangerous

so I hope the

the study and my story illustrate that

the problem isn't AI the the

the problem is our mindset

the problem is

what we train our children to do in school

our kids don't need more discipline

they need more imagination

they need more time for imagination

they need more opportunities to

to express and explore their imagination

they don't need stricter schedules

they need more time for exploration

and the good news is we

parents can supplement their

their curriculum you know

the school may take a while

or may never catch up to this

but we can

we can supplement their time when they come home

we can create those opportunities

those times to to be creative

to be to explore their interests

to dig in deep to to find their

what makes them human and

and what their

what their unique

little minds find fascinating and want to explore

be there for them be them

buy buy

buy them books bring them to the library

let them borrow books um

if you have the budget

find some after school programs that can nurture them

you know we

we can do these things we

we we

there's still time there's still

if you if you have kids

if you have you know elementary

middle school heck

even high school kids

there's still time for them to learn this how

to adapt to this new world

because the future is gonna belong to people

who can create their own opportunities

who don't just wait for them to be handed to them or

or apply for them this the

the world

will not be a world where we apply for opportunities

it's where we seize those opportunities

you know and a good example of that is people who

who go on youtube go on tiktok

and share what they're they're interested in

it could be something as simple as dancing or tricks

it could be something as you know

riding a bike or or cars

or it can be something much more

you know

in depth building um

you know creating robots programming

it can even be video game playing

it could be

there's so many interests that children have

where they can express it

and they don't have to wait

some people love cooking

they create their own cooking programs

travel create their own travel programs

and you know

these are the things that we humans do

and we love doing and it's genuine and authentic and

you know no matter whether a

an AI can create a fictional person

that travels the world

there will always be people who prefer the real thing

who prefer those real insights

prefer those real emotional reactions

there's always gonna be a space for that

and that

is the space where we have a competitive advantage

but nobody's gonna give our kids that opportunity

we have to prepare them to seize those opportunities

to create those opportunities for themselves

and i'm sure like me

you're also realizing that that's not the only concern

right right now

our government is funded whether on the the

the the federal level or the state level by

by our work by our labor

you know we get taxed based on our income

what happens if we lose jobs

what happens if

there's a precipitous loss in employee employment

and therefore a a loss in tax revenue

what are we gonna do how will we

how will roads get built how are

how are fire stations and police stations

and even schools going to be funded

and this is another very good question

because we need to start thinking about those issues

we need roads we need police stations

we need fire stations we need

we need the infrastructure that we all benefit from

and there are so many other ways that AI

will affect our future

but the way forward isn't just a knee jerk reaction

no we don't want this to happen

we want life to stay the way it is because

it it just can't

you know um

i wish we could legislate our way out of this

because my daughter is also very anti-AI

and i had to have this conversation with her

it's like she's like

why can't we just the world just stay the way it is

I'm like okay

let's assume we we pass legislation

we outlaw AI outright okay

well

other countries are going to allow it to be developed

and they're gonna get really good at it

and they're gonna control the future economy

those AIs may even be used to attack us

they may be used to build incredible robots that

that are become an a robot army

and then we can't possibly fight against

or even you know

those robots then are building cars

they're building you know

all the things that people need

and so

the cost of goods in these other countries goes down

precipitously the cost of our hours goes up

we can't sell our products overseas

so again that hits our economy

and then we have a choice

do we let in the cheap goods

and then destroy our industries completely

or do we

you know

transition and then are we transitioning too late

and there are a lot of problems in stopping progress it

it puts us at a huge competitive disadvantage

and we pay the price in the long run

and companies who have done that have paid that price

like I remember reading about Kodak in the 70s

already created the digital camera

but they're like we're not gonna develop this

because we make so much money from film

and if we have a digital camera

then we don't need film

and we're gonna lose in the long run

but what happened eventually is

somebody did develop the digital camera

and totally destroyed their business

and there's a reason we don't really hear Kodak anymore

it was everywhere when I was growing up

Kodak film

you know it was ubiquitous

so

trying to legislate or control and stop progress

isn't the way to make yourself stronger

it is usually the way you make yourself weaker

and end up destroying your company

your country whatever

whatever level this is at

but it's important we keep that in mind

and the the ramifications for the future

i think it's difficult for us to predict

but i'm a big sci fi guy

so i've watched all these utopian

dystopian future

movies and read the book

these books and it's fascinating

all the different scenarios

that people have come up with

you know

like a Dune a future like Dune

or a future like the Hunger Games

or a future like Terminator

or a future like Star Trek or Star Wars

right so there are all these potential futures

depending on the kinds of decisions we make

as a society

if we decide that you know

we don't like this idea of taxing big corporations

or doing a wealth tax

or finding another revenue source other than labor

then what happens is you

you can end up in a Hunger Games like

situation where we're all pit against each other

fighting for the scraps so that's

that's one potential outcome that we have to be

understand like

the decisions we make lead to certain consequences

and again a knee jerk reaction

isn't enough to get us out of the situation

we need to have conversations

I'm not the end all be all of of this conversation

there needs to be a lot more

there needs to be a lot of back and forth

what are the different ways we can raise money

maybe there's somebody's even more creative

maybe we don't need a wealth tax

maybe we don't need to tax corporations

at a higher level I don't know

but this is this is a model even

you know people in silicon valley are looking at

you know do we

do we need a universal basic income

everybody just get paid

gets paid for being in this country

and then you know

we can all survive on that

because the cost of goods has gone down tremendously

because robots and AI is managing the entire society

and all we need to do is

we can survive on the money we we

we we get right

we can thrive even but if we want more

or if we want to pursue our passions

there are opportunities for us to gain even more money

so this

this this would be the Star Trek type of future

a utopian future

where we have leveraged the technology

to serve all of humanity and benefit all of humanity

and then there are the more dystopian futures where

you know we really didn't

pay attention to the development of AI and robotics

and they rebelled

and there was a war between humanity and the

the robots things like the Matrix

stories like Terminator

stories like Battlestar Galactica

that's that's a warning right

we really need to watch this carefully

watch this closely see where it's going

um there needs to be legislation in

in place to help guide these corporations

as they develop this technology

and then I mentioned the economic future right

the Hunger Games versus Star Trek

the Next Generation type of future where

you know how do we distribute wealth

is it still concentrated in the hands of the wealthy

and the rest of us have to fight for the scraps

or do we distribute we give everybody a basic income

income they can survive and then

work becomes an opportunity for enriching that life

financially

or even

by adding meaning

that's why the people on the starship Enterprise

are doing that because they feel enriched

their life is enriched

in pursuing their interest in medicine or

you know captaining a ship

there are always opportunities for us

to pursue our interests and be a part of these things

because we don't need the money

we don't need a job

to to

to survive we we

we've taken care of survival using the technology

using the resources that we've developed as a society

and then

all we do beyond that is for personal enrichment

if you are worried if you are concerned

you have every right to be and

and it's good to be because

there are real risks

there is going to be a real social change

societal change

who benefits from this technology

does everybody benefit or

only those who have the most wealth and power

in society

we also talked about the the

the societal ramifications

of not monitoring

and controlling the development of the technology

there are real reasons to be concerned

I'm hopeful we can take the best of this

I remember when I was young

you know I saw people who started businesses

they already had money you know

because

you had to have a lot of capital to start a business

and then you know

after I left medicine this is

the internet was already in place

social media starting and

the cost of starting a business went down tremendously

you can have an online presence

you can market on social media there

the opportunities for people to earn a living

and start their own business

just exponentially increased

and I see the same thing happening with AI and robotics

the the opportunities

the cost of starting a business

is going to go down tremendously

you see some people just creating videos

there's a really great example in the news recently

uh there's that youtube star

YouTube or TikTok actually TikTok

TikTok star Khaby

I don't know exactly how to say his name

Lame Lame um Lame

so uh

he did these really

videos where he watched people do silly things

and he's like what are they doing right

he just point at it

and with this silly expression on his face

and it became very popular because of that

so this guy grew up very poor

I think he was even born in Senegal

and then I think he he lived in Europe

but I don't think his family was doing that well

he just sold I think

the rights to his image and likeness

over 900 million dollars

this guy is nearly a billionaire

just a phone

and his reaction to the silly things people do that

that's being human and it resonated

and

he will probably never have to work a day in his life

after this if he doesn't want to

but he he will

because you know

people like that who who explore their humanity

explore their interests

they're

they're always gonna do things just because it's fun

they find it amusing that

that's very human I think we've

we've gotten so used to living lives

working just to survive just to make money

just to you know

be a slave to our houses our cars

our standard of living the opinions of our neighbors

this new world is going to change that

you know there are always people

people who do that who who live for other people

but those people who are truly curious

who truly you know

double down on on themselves and their humanity

and their interests and their humor

and their what their their their

their love for travel or cooking

or whatever it happens to be

they're going to do well in this world

and it's time for us to start shifting our mindset

and instead of being afraid

of how things are going to change

be hopeful

for all the opportunities that we're going to be given

the like i said

the cost of business is going down

and there are examples of so many people out there

who are doing things on social media

who have like

cashed in who've done tremendously well

Mr. Beast for example

right another

you know example of somebody on YouTube

who's done tremendously well

and the opportunities will be well beyond social media

like I said once you have AI and robotics

the the sky's the limit

like the type of business that you run

it'll be insane it'll be really insane

so I'm personally looking forward to it

I know there's gonna be

speed bumps along the way

but it starts with us having these conversations

it starts with us understanding

exactly how our government works how

funding our government works

and what are the options

and then also nurturing in our children

nurturing this change in our children

and having conversations with people about like okay

you know how can we move forward

so in conclusion I

I really don't believe AI is going to destroy us

but our mindset might

and this is the dangerous thing I

I think what usually harms societies are the people

and right now we're in a very divisive time

and so if we really want to move forward together

and create that utopian future

create that better future

we've got to get over ourselves

we've got to get over these divisions

we've got to start seeing the humanity in each other

and stop believing the lies

of those who want to divide us

the future is plentiful

but these people will create a hunger games future

where we're so busy fighting

we don't care that we're we're being manipulated

that the the

the wealthy

and powerful are just dividing and conquering are

are using our fear and anxiety and anger to

to keep us down

and then they'll let us compete with each other

you know for the hope of moving up

and I'm here telling you that

that doesn't have to be our future

but we have to start that conversation now

we have to get past our fear

get past our anger

work on our mindset that

that it will create a cultural shift that will

will propel us in the right direction

also understand the

the some costs of our education system

yes and

and that even the education system

our children are going through that

you know there's some benefit to it

but there's also harms so let's stop feeling

stuck in that mold

you know there's

there's a new exciting future coming

and it belongs to those who

double down on their humanity

who pursue their curiosity

who pursue their imagination

who explore who think

who create

and remember the Anthony Hopkins story

it definitely gives me hope

I can't imagine there was a time that

Anthony Hopkins' family didn't believe he

he had it in him to be a success

but that's what happens when we limit our

when our understanding is limited by

you know these tools we use to evaluate ourselves

there are more opportunities out there

for those of us who don't fit the mold

and as a matter of fact we're all gonna be required

to not fit in the mold anymore

and let's start not just challenging this

and this mindset in in ourselves

but nurturing this new mindset of

exploration

creativity imagination in our children

help them to find their passion

pursue it and explore it

like I said bring them to the library

it doesn't have to cost money

you can bring them to the library

you can go online

I'm not a huge fan of like

consuming media on social media and internet

but

if that's where they find what they're curious about

let them pursue it let them understand it

just find time for them to also create

to work on this project to be bored

that's when they will start finding the joy

and not just consuming

the content and creations of others

but creating their own creations

creating their own content

creating whatever it is they want to create

whatever they're passionate about

and sharing that with the world

and so I'll leave you this it

it's not technology that will determine our future

it's our values so

we need to deeply work on ourselves

and explore ourselves and improve ourselves and and

and we'll see a return on that investment

we're gonna see the hope and opportunity

that we've been missing because of our fear

so these are the things I'm

calling for these are my call to action points

number one

let's work on our mindset

let's see this brave new world for what it is

a truly brave new world of opportunities for us

and our children and everybody

let's keep in mind

that utopian

Star Trek future that's been painted for us

where we've used technology

we've used these advances

to make sure everyone is taken care of

everyone has got housing clothing

food health care

we've taken care of everyone

and we all

now have the opportunity to explore our interests

to live a more fulfilled life

to not live the life of a slave

of a robot that we've been forced to

I mean we're

we're fighting for something

that none of us really loves

no do we love working in a cubicle

do we love having to listen to a boss that that

that demeans us and humiliates us

and keeps us from our families

keeps us from pursuing interests that

that to me

isn't a life worth fighting for

I know there's this fear in the unknown

but I'm telling you there's opportunity

if you look at the progress of technology

and the opportunities provided for us

there is a a better future

but it requires bravery because yes

it's easy to be a slave you don't have to do anything

you just listen to your master

and try not to get whipped

you know and he'll feed you and he'll clothe you

you know with the scraps that

that are left over

that's the stark choice we face

do we want to remain a slave

or do we want to fully realize our humanity

it requires bravery it requires courage

and it's scary that the past feels safe

but I'm telling you the past is that

that nostalgia I'm sorry

it's not that great

I remember us all complaining about cubicle jobs and

and crappy bosses and

from the stories I'm hearing from friends

in corporate America it's not getting better

it's getting worse

and the second call to action is

let's supplement the education system

forcing our children to fall into these molds

to be evaluated by these molds

that are no longer relevant

this education system is setting us up for failure

it's pitting us against machines and

and we will lose in a competition with machines

you know the kind of work that people do in cubicles

the kind of work people do on

on factory assembly lines

we cannot compete with machines

and we will lose we will lose

so time to invest in our children

and make sure

that they they can

outcompete machines by doubling down on their humanity

their curiosity their inquisitiveness

their desire for exploration and

and understanding the world

and sharing that with others

so as an example

my son loves art he loves building

he loves computers

he's even said he wants to be a mechanical engineer

and I honestly don't know if there will be a

a mechanical engineer

opportunity in the future

but I'm helping him pursue that right

what he does may not be a mechanical engineer role

but he will

he will likely be able to use those passions

those skills he he

he picks up along the way to realize what he wants

like one of the people he really likes following on

on YouTube is a guy who invents things

and then he sells those inventions

for kids to build at home

and so there are ways you know

we can earn a living we can um

make a livelihood we can pursue our passion

that doesn't involve working for somebody else

it can just be teaching others about engineering

it can be showing others the cool things we can create

using engineering

and then it can be selling others courses

or products of that engineering

or how to build it myself kind of things

the opportunities of the future are really

just limited by our imagination

so let's work on helping our children not just develop

um the basic skills

but develop those skills that they're passionate about

and give them an open mind to pursue that creativity

and not be not learn to just be a drone

I know school is gonna try to push them down

and make them fit into a mold

but our job at home is to try to expand their minds

and let them know that

school is just one one aspect of life

and it's not even the most important one

not anymore

and the final call to action is

spread the word you know it's time to evangelize

time to talk to your

friends family

coworkers

uh neighbors

this is one of those situations

like sometimes we feel like

you know it people feel greedy

I have this piece of information

I wanna hold on to it

this is not one of those pieces of information

you wanna hold on to okay

because it doesn't put you at a competitive advantage

if you see the hope of a better future

where we all rise together

but you're still trying to think about

how you crush the competition

you're not there and what's even worse is

other people are still stuck in that old mentality

and we're gonna end up in a

my fear we end up in a Hunger Games situation

cause we're all too busy hating each other

and pushing each other down

to realize we can all lift each other up

and for the longest time in America

this is something I respected

that I didn't see in other cultures around the world

in other cultures

they develop this fear

where they just push each other down

because they feel that if you have opportunity

that takes away from my opportunity

and it is a very dangerous thing

that keeps the third world

the third world and in America

like I said for the longest time

there wasn't this it's this hopefulness

this there is a lifting up of each other

but now that things are getting tight

because again

the wealthy and powerful have learned to concentrate

that we can talk about the economy

and the borrowing money and how that affects inflation

and all sorts of bad decisions along the way

losing manufacturing and not investing in our people

this is a huge conversation right

and we haven't even scratched the surface

but I really wanna talk about mindset today because

it's what's going to allow us all

to reclaim this confidence

and understand that we all can rise together

but if we start getting greedy

we start trying to push others down

or worry that if we don't push others down we're

we're at a disadvantage our kids are at a disadvantage

if we think like that

we will go in a very bad direction

one that we don't like it'll be

it'll be one of those dystopian options that we

we we we fear

this is a self fulfilling prophecy

if we believe the world is limited

and that we're competing with each other

we will live in a limited world

where we compete with each other

if we believe there is an abundant

plentiful future where we can all lift each other up

then that's the future we will create

but it's gonna require some

some soul searching it's gonna require a

a shift in our mindsets

and I highly encourage you guys to read books

you know there's a great book Abundance

that kind of shifted my mind mindset on this

but we can't keep going down the same road we're going

we we need changes

we need to be aware of these policies that

on the state local

state federal level

that need to change in order for us to do that

but like I said

the first thing is our mindset has to shift

we there are plenty of resources

resources out there we can all be doing well

we don't need to be fighting

spread the gospel and

you know let me know how that goes

and stay tuned for more I wish you all the best

thank you so much bye